Gnarrrr
Ely Barajas
RAWDA RAWDA RAWDA
what chu know about that chowder?
Jon Klownskeetz
Grawwwuuu?
我看不懂
呵呵
Ely Barajas
rawda lada tada dee
Jon Klownskeetz
OK now I know you are crazy
Ely Barajas
"some people never go crazy. What terrible lives they must have." - Bukowski.
Yeah, I'm pretty crazy. I'm fond of it though.
Ely Barajas
What, did you expect me to be like oh no. i stick to enlighs? lol
Jon Klownskeetz
Who is that polack bukowski
Ely Barajas
english*
lmfaoo
my idol.
Jon Klownskeetz
No enlightenment
Who is he
Ely Barajas
he is a poet/writer. i'm really fond of him. he was also an alchoholic. \
lol which makes him all the more fascinating
Jon Klownskeetz
Well then That's great! We got a great child rolemodel here
How so? We all abuse some substance or another. Some more accepted then others
All actions release chemicals in your body/brain
Hehehe
At some point send me something over from him
Ely Barajas
i think it's more fascinating due to the fact that most poets/writers weren't at all as cynical and pessemistic as he was. i just think it's important to look at that side of life because it is there. and although it may seem strange to idolize a man who consumed so much, (especially since i can see where you are derving your sarcasm from: all the praise of alchohal teenagers seem to have) but that's not at a the case.
i feel like he has a different sort of lense. it's just interesting that something that can be so frowned upon could actually give him some sort of freedom a lot of people lack
have you ever read any of his poems?
i feel like if you have, you'd understand.
he was never really into the convientional norms of society. i really like "my father and the bum". he paid a lot of attention to the things that mattered in life while most people got sucked into whatever it was they were told to get sucked into..
i like "igloo" a lot too. and the quote "what matters most is how you walk through the fire."
challenge me. i enjoy this.
Jon Klownskeetz
That's the thing
There was No sarcasm
Ely Barajas
it seemed that way
Jon Klownskeetz
I was serious, our perceptions of the world are built by us and the share that we are in now is a product of societal installation, when in fact we create our life's/reality
People think that there is so much to life, that there is some crazy thing that makes us alive, it isn't, it is just. Eries of chemicals reactions.. Which my point. Everyone has chemical dependencies, from heroin to coffee to a social integration with another human
I was just making lighthearted of the situation because I have something on my mind that I wanted to get rid of so I can sleep
A way to deal with my problems
Eh I didn't tie it together well... but ey I am on a phone
Ely Barajas
no I understand.
I'm gong to write something give me a second
I thought you were going to add something to it so that's why I didn't reply
I was waiting
but okay.
Jon Klownskeetz
N I was serious about checking him out I think I've heard of him
Ely Barajas
yeah he is really great. I recommend "ham on rye"!
Jon Klownskeetz
All good.. just a slight brush stroke to encompass the general line of thinking
Kk
Ely Barajas
what is it that you are trying to get ouf of your mind? i don't even know what we are discussing anymore, but i don't think it matters. i'm just going to say that i don't it's that black and white. i've thought of what you've said before. i thought of it when my first boyfriend broke up with me (lame lol, but true). I thought this is just one chemical reaction over another and therefor, it's stupid. I'm wired. Mechanical, even. When it's really not that at all. I think that's a very cynical way of looking at things and although I appreciate people who are cynical, I don't think that's the right kind.
Ely Barajas
Alcohol fueled bukowski's cynicism but in a way that made sense.
the world isn't black and white, it's a wide spectrum of colors.
Jon Klownskeetz
Hehe I accomplished what I was going for
Haha
What isn't black and white?
Ely Barajas
the ways of a human
our actions
and what do you mean you accomplished what you were going for?
Jon Klownskeetz
Well Yea. Think of it this way: I am a graffiti writer, I believe what I do is not bad nor do I think that it harms nor do I think of the people I do harm. Other people can't think like me. What we believe is "good " and "bad " is just a reflection of the social environment we are brought up in.... and even though we are brought up in a certain way and specific things are told to us, there will always be people who have a different set of morals and ideals.
Jon Klownskeetz
Sociopaths is the term that encompasses most of these people
Jon Klownskeetz
But as an extreme example think of terrorists, due to what is told to us, we believe what they do is bad... but to them it is the other way around... who is right? No one really... although our way seems to be the one that allows us to coexist Which is theoretically a better model
Jon Klownskeetz
expeirencing. i've never really had to battle my emotions, you know? it's been an interesting year.
Oh I was trying to cover myself in a shroud of confusion
To advance the conversation
Jon Klownskeetz
Tell me something I shud think about... lol other shud know?
Or
After u done with this!
YES YES YE SYES
OMG YES
EXACTLY WHERE I STANDDNOW
I am a name of change, I do not fear it I indulge in it
Ely Barajas
that was very nicely said. ^-^
Jon Klownskeetz
I understand the mechanics of missing something, I am a man of reason and logic
Yet for some reason these primitive.... simple... reactions... get to me
It's like I know about it yet I cannot escape it
I am doomed to repeat the same mistakes and things my ancestors have been doing for thousands of years
Sorry!
Ely Barajas
sorry for what? there is no reaso to apologize. you know what's a funny thought thats a bit disturbing? our closest ancestors are apes. It makes everything a lot less serious. Well, I guess it depends on your ange. From what I can tell, that's exactly the kind of thinking your trying to escape.
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